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3  ·  Nouns, numbers and measure words

Roughly: approximate numbers

about, more than and a few

Duō, jǐ, zuǒyòu, shàngxià and two neighbouring numbers make a number vague, each in its own place.

多(duō), “and a bit more”, changes its place with the number. After a round number — ten, twenty, a hundred — it comes before the measure word: 二十(èrshí)多(duō)个(ge)人(rén), twenty-odd people, somewhere between twenty-one and twenty-nine. After a number from one to nine it comes after the measure word, and then it means a fraction more: 三(sān)个(ge)多(duō)月(yuè), three months and a bit, 五(wǔ)块(kuài)多(duō), five yuan something.

几(jǐ), which asks “how many?” in a question, means “a few” in a statement: 几(jǐ)个(ge)朋友(péngyou), a few friends — usually somewhere between three and nine. It combines with ten and the place words: 十几(shíjǐ)个(ge) is eleven to nineteen, a dozen or so, 几十(jǐshí)个(ge)is a few dozen几百(jǐbǎi)several hundred

左右(zuǒyòu), literally “left and right”, means “about” and follows the whole amount: 三十(sānshí)岁(suì)左右(zuǒyòu), about thirty, 八(bā)点(diǎn)左右(zuǒyòu), at about eight. 上下(shàngxià), “above and below”, works the same way for amounts such as ages, weights and temperatures, but not for clock times. Before the number, 大概(dàgài) does the same job, as “roughly” does in English.

The shortest way is to say two neighbouring numbers, the smaller first, with no word for “or”: 三四(sānsì)个(ge), three or four, 七八(qībā)天(tiān), seven or eight days, 两三(liǎngsān)次(cì), two or three times — with 两(liǎng) for the two. Nine and ten cannot be joined this way, because 九十(jiǔshí) already means ninety.

The form

twenty-odd二十(èrshí)多(duō)个(ge)人(rén)
three months and a bit三(sān)个(ge)多(duō)月(yuè)
a dozen or so十几(shíjǐ)个(ge)学生(xuésheng)
about thirty三十(sānshí)岁(suì)左右(zuǒyòu)
three or four三四(sānsì)天(tiān)

The rules one by one

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  1. After a round number, 多(duō) comes before the measure word.

    我们(wǒmen)等(děng)了(le)二十(èrshí)多(duō)分钟(fēnzhōng)。We waited twenty-odd minutes.

  2. After a number from one to nine, 多(duō) comes after the measure word and means a fraction more.

    这(zhè)条(tiáo)鱼(yú)三(sān)斤(jīn)多(duō)。This fish weighs a little over three jin.

  3. In a statement, 几(jǐ) means a few; 十几(shíjǐ) and 几十(jǐshí) stretch it.

    我(wǒ)在(zài)上海(Shànghǎi)有(yǒu)几(jǐ)个(ge)朋友(péngyou)。I have a few friends in Shanghai.

  4. 左右(zuǒyòu) and 上下(shàngxià) follow the whole amount; only 左右(zuǒyòu) works for clock times.

    我(wǒ)七(qī)点(diǎn)左右(zuǒyòu)到(dào)。I'll be there around seven.

  5. Two neighbouring numbers, the smaller first, mean “one or the other”.

    他(tā)一(yí)个(ge)星期(xīngqī)去(qù)两三(liǎngsān)次(cì)健身房(jiànshēnfáng)。He goes to the gym two or three times a week.

A closer look

Shí duō jīn or shí jīn duō?

With a round number and a divisible unit, both places are possible, and they mean different things. 十(shí)多(duō)斤(jīn) is more than ten 斤(jīn), anywhere up to nineteen; 十(shí)斤(jīn)多(duō) is ten 斤(jīn) and a fraction, less than eleven. The position of 多(duō) says which unit the extra belongs to: before the measure word it adds whole units, after it a part of one.

For things that cannot be divided — people, books, cars — only the first position exists: 十(shí)多(duō)个(ge)人(rén), more than ten people. A fraction of a person makes no sense, so 多(duō) after 个(ge) is impossible with them.

Exceptions and special cases (1)
  • the thing counted cannot be split into parts — people, books, cars

    多(duō) is used only after a round number, before the measure word.

    我们(wǒmen)班(bān)有(yǒu)三十(sānshí)多(duō)个(ge)学生(xuésheng)。There are thirty-odd students in our class.

    After the measure word it would mean part of one more, and there is no part of a person or a book.

How to spot it

  • 多(duō)
  • 几(jǐ)
  • 左右(zuǒyòu)
  • 上下(shàngxià)
  • 大概(dàgài)

Example sentences

今天(jīntiān)来(lái)了(le)一百(yìbǎi)多(duō)个(ge)人(rén)。A hundred-odd people came today.

我(wǒ)学(xué)了(le)一(yì)年(nián)多(duō)汉语(Hànyǔ)。I studied Chinese for just over a year.

教室(jiàoshì)里(lǐ)有(yǒu)十几(shíjǐ)个(ge)学生(xuésheng)。There are a dozen or so students in the classroom.

他(tā)爸爸(bàba)六十(liùshí)岁(suì)上下(shàngxià)。His father is about sixty.

从(cóng)这儿(zhèr)走到(zǒudào)车站(chēzhàn)要(yào)五六(wǔliù)分钟(fēnzhōng)。It's a five- or six-minute walk from here to the station.

这(zhè)本(běn)书(shū)我(wǒ)看(kàn)了(le)好几(hǎojǐ)遍(biàn)。I've read this book quite a few times.

8 more example sentences

这(zhè)件(jiàn)大衣(dàyī)两千(liǎngqiān)多(duō)块(kuài)。This coat costs two thousand-odd yuan.

我(wǒ)走(zǒu)了(le)一(yí)个(ge)多(duō)小时(xiǎoshí)。I walked for over an hour.

这个(zhège)村子(cūnzi)里(lǐ)只(zhǐ)住(zhù)着(zhe)几十(jǐshí)个(ge)人(rén)。Only a few dozen people live in this village.

我(wǒ)每(měi)个(ge)月(yuè)的(de)房租(fángzū)三千(sānqiān)块(kuài)左右(zuǒyòu)。My rent is about three thousand yuan a month.

他(tā)一(yì)米(mǐ)八(bā)左右(zuǒyòu)。He is about one metre eighty.

我们(wǒmen)休息(xiūxi)一两(yìliǎng)天(tiān)再(zài)走(zǒu)吧(ba)。Let's rest for a day or two before we go on.

大概(dàgài)有(yǒu)五十(wǔshí)个(ge)人(rén)报名(bàomíng)了(le)。About fifty people have signed up.

今天(jīntiān)最(zuì)高(gāo)气温(qìwēn)三十(sānshí)度(dù)上下(shàngxià)。Today's high is around thirty degrees.

Worth knowing (1)
  • Hǎojǐ: more than you would think

    好几(hǎojǐ) is “a good few”: a number that is not given but is larger than the speaker expected, often with a note of surprise or complaint. It takes a measure word like 几(jǐ).

    我(wǒ)给(gěi)他(tā)打(dǎ)了(le)好几(hǎojǐ)个(ge)电话(diànhuà)。I phoned him quite a few times.

The trap English speakers fall into

Watch out

English “three-odd hours” suggests putting 多(duō) right after the number. But 三(sān)多(duō) would mean “thirty-something without the ten”, which does not exist. Below ten, the extra is a part of the last unit, so 多(duō) follows the measure word: three hours, and a bit.

Wrong:我(wǒ)等(děng)了(le)三(sān)多(duō)个(ge)小时(xiǎoshí)。
Right:我(wǒ)等(děng)了(le)三(sān)个(ge)多(duō)小时(xiǎoshí)。

After ten, twenty or a hundred, duō comes before the measure word; after one to nine, it comes after.

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