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5  ·  Expressions (level 5)

As for: zhìyú

moving on to a related point

Zhìyú opens a clause about the next point; bú zhìyú says it will not come to that.

至于(zhìyú) stands at the head of a clause and moves the conversation on to a related point: “as for, as to”. It needs something before it to move on from. 房子(fángzi)我(wǒ)很(hěn)满意(mǎnyì),至于(zhìyú)价格(jiàgé),还(hái)可以(kěyǐ)再(zài)谈(tán): “I like the flat; as for the price, that can still be discussed”.

What follows 至于(zhìyú) is very often something the speaker sets aside, leaves open or cannot settle — 至于(zhìyú)为什么(wèishénme),我(wǒ)也(yě)不(bù)清楚(qīngchu), “as for why, I don’t know either”. It can be followed by a noun or by a whole clause, including an embedded question.

The trap is 关于(guānyú), “about, regarding”. 关于(guānyú) names the topic of a whole statement or text and can stand before 的(de): 一(yì)本(běn)关于(guānyú)历史(lìshǐ)的(de)书(shū), “a book about history”. 至于(zhìyú) cannot: it only turns from one point to the next.

至于(zhìyú) is also a verb, literally “reach as far as”. 不(bú)至于(zhìyú) means “it won’t come to that, it isn’t that bad”, and a bare 至于(zhìyú)吗(ma)? asks whether a reaction is not over the top: “is that really necessary?”.

The form

as for (a new point)至于(zhìyú)时间(shíjiān),我们(wǒmen)明天(míngtiān)再(zài)定(dìng)。
as for, with a clause至于(zhìyú)他(tā)去不去(qùbuqù),我(wǒ)就(jiù)不(bù)知道(zhīdao)了(le)。
it won’t come to that他(tā)不(bú)至于(zhìyú)生气(shēngqì)吧(ba)。
is that really necessary?为了(wèile)这(zhè)点儿(diǎnr)小(xiǎo)事(shì),至于(zhìyú)吗(ma)?

The rules one by one

The form this topic is about

  1. 至于(zhìyú) stands at the head of a clause and moves on to a related point.

    房子(fángzi)我(wǒ)很(hěn)满意(mǎnyì),至于(zhìyú)价格(jiàgé),还(hái)可以(kěyǐ)再(zài)谈(tán)。I’m happy with the flat; as for the price, that can still be discussed.

  2. What follows 至于(zhìyú) is often something the speaker leaves open or does not care about.

    至于(zhìyú)别人(biérén)怎么(zěnme)看(kàn),我(wǒ)不(bú)在乎(zàihu)。As for what other people think, I don’t care.

  3. 至于(zhìyú) needs a point before it to move on from; 关于(guānyú) can open a topic from nothing and stand before 的(de).

    关于(guānyú)这个(zhège)问题(wèntí),我(wǒ)想(xiǎng)说(shuō)几(jǐ)句(jù)。On this question, I would like to say a few words.

  4. 不(bú)至于(zhìyú) says that things will not get as bad as that.

    只是(zhǐshì)小(xiǎo)感冒(gǎnmào),不(bú)至于(zhìyú)住院(zhùyuàn)。It’s only a cold — it won’t come to going into hospital.

  5. 至于(zhìyú)吗(ma) asks whether a reaction is not over the top.

    不(bú)就(jiù)是(shì)输(shū)了(le)一(yì)场(chǎng)比赛(bǐsài)吗(ma),至于(zhìyú)这么(zhème)难过(nánguò)吗(ma)?It was only one lost match — do you really need to be this upset?

A closer look

Zhìyú as a verb

The two characters mean “arrive at, reach”. As a linking word, 至于(zhìyú) “arrives at” the next topic. As a verb it asks how far something goes: 事情(shìqing)还(hái)不(bú)至于(zhìyú)这么(zhème)糟(zāo), “things are not that bad yet”. The verb is used almost only in the negative and in questions.

In writing, 以至于(yǐzhìyú) carries the same picture into a result clause: something went so far that a consequence followed. It is close to English “so much so that”, and the sentence before it usually has a degree word such as 太(tài) or 非常(fēicháng).

How to spot it

  • 至于(zhìyú)…,
  • 不(bú)至于(zhìyú)
  • 至于(zhìyú)吗(ma)
  • 以至于(yǐzhìyú)

Example sentences

我们(wǒmen)先(xiān)把(bǎ)计划(jìhuà)定(dìng)下来(xiàlai),至于(zhìyú)细节(xìjié),以后(yǐhòu)再(zài)说(shuō)。Let’s settle the plan first; as for the details, we can talk about those later.

他(tā)答应(dāying)来(lái)了(le),至于(zhìyú)几(jǐ)点(diǎn)到(dào),他(tā)没(méi)说(shuō)。He promised to come; as for what time he’ll arrive, he didn’t say.

这(zhè)本(běn)书(shū)我(wǒ)推荐(tuījiàn)给(gěi)你(nǐ),至于(zhìyú)喜不喜欢(xǐbuxǐhuan),要(yào)看(kàn)你(nǐ)自己(zìjǐ)。I recommend this book to you; whether you like it is up to you.

他(tā)虽然(suīrán)有点儿(yǒudiǎnr)马虎(mǎhu),但(dàn)还(hái)不(bú)至于(zhìyú)犯(fàn)这么(zhème)大(dà)的(de)错(cuò)。He can be a bit careless, but not careless enough to make a mistake this big.

只(zhǐ)晚(wǎn)了(le)五(wǔ)分钟(fēnzhōng),你(nǐ)至于(zhìyú)发(fā)这么(zhème)大(dà)的(de)火(huǒ)吗(ma)?It was only five minutes — do you really have to get so angry?

会议(huìyì)的(de)地点(dìdiǎn)已经(yǐjīng)定(dìng)了(le),至于(zhìyú)参加(cānjiā)的(de)人(rén),还(hái)在(zài)确认(quèrèn)。The venue of the meeting has been fixed; as for who is attending, that is still being confirmed.

7 more example sentences

房间(fángjiān)打扫(dǎsǎo)干净(gānjìng)了(le),至于(zhìyú)厨房(chúfáng),明天(míngtiān)再(zài)收拾(shōushi)吧(ba)。The rooms are clean; as for the kitchen, let’s tidy that tomorrow.

我(wǒ)知道(zhīdao)他(tā)辞职(cízhí)了(le),至于(zhìyú)为什么(wèishénme),我(wǒ)也(yě)不(bù)清楚(qīngchu)。I know he has resigned; as for why, I don’t know either.

学(xué)中文(Zhōngwén)要(yào)多(duō)听(tīng)多(duō)说(shuō),至于(zhìyú)写(xiě)汉字(hànzì),可以(kěyǐ)慢慢(mànmàn)来(lái)。Learning Chinese takes a lot of listening and speaking; as for writing characters, you can take that slowly.

我(wǒ)想(xiǎng)他(tā)不(bú)至于(zhìyú)连(lián)这(zhè)点儿(diǎnr)钱(qián)都(dōu)没有(méiyǒu)。I doubt he is so badly off that he hasn’t got even this much money.

问题(wèntí)是(shì)有(yǒu)的(de),但(dàn)不(bú)至于(zhìyú)那么(nàme)严重(yánzhòng)。There are problems, but they’re not that serious.

钱(qián)的(de)事(shì)你(nǐ)别(bié)担心(dānxīn),至于(zhìyú)怎么(zěnme)还(huán),以后(yǐhòu)再(zài)商量(shāngliang)。Don’t worry about the money; how you pay it back we can discuss later.

一(yí)件(jiàn)衣服(yīfu)而已(éryǐ),至于(zhìyú)吗(ma)?It’s only a piece of clothing — is that really worth the fuss?

Worth knowing (1)
  • Yǐzhìyú: so much so that

    以至于(yǐzhìyú) opens a result clause: something went so far that a consequence followed. It belongs to careful speech and writing and often introduces an unwelcome result.

    他(tā)太(tài)紧张(jǐnzhāng)了(le),以至于(yǐzhìyú)忘(wàng)了(le)要(yào)说(shuō)的(de)话(huà)。He was so nervous that he forgot what he wanted to say.

The trap English speakers fall into

Watch out

English “as to” and “about” overlap, and both words are glossed “regarding”. But 至于(zhìyú) only opens a clause that turns to the next point; it cannot describe a noun with 的(de). A book, a talk or an article “about” something is always 关于(guānyú).

Wrong:我(wǒ)买(mǎi)了(le)一(yì)本(běn)至于(zhìyú)中国(Zhōngguó)历史(lìshǐ)的(de)书(shū)。
Right:我(wǒ)买(mǎi)了(le)一(yì)本(běn)关于(guānyú)中国(Zhōngguó)历史(lìshǐ)的(de)书(shū)。

Zhìyú moves on to the next point at the head of its clause; bú zhìyú says it will not come to that.

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